- 1School of Atmospheric Sciences, Sun Yat-sen University, and Southern Marine Science and Engineering Guangdong Laboratory (Zhuhai), Zhuhai, China
- 2Guangdong Province Key Laboratory for Climate Change and Natural Disaster Studies, Sun Yat-sen University, Zhuhai, China
- 3Key Laboratory of Tropical Atmosphere-Ocean System, Sun Yat-sen University, Ministry of Education, Zhuhai, China
- 4Department of the Geophysical Sciences, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL, USA
- 5Guangzhou Institute of Tropical and Marine Meteorology, China Meteorological Administration, Guangzhou, China
This talk will present our recent work of Weng et al. (2025, in manuscript). Intrinsic predictability of the weather defines the ultimate limit of our day-to-day weather forecasts. This study aims to investigate the variable- and scale-dependent intrinsic predictability of wave-convection coupled bands lasting nearly 10 hours near the south coast of China on 30 January 2018, by conducting perturbed and unperturbed convection-permitting simulations with 1-km horizontal grid spacing under varying initial moisture conditions. In particular, the predictability time scale of each selected forecast variable is quantified in the current study via the Loss Predictability Index (LPI), defined as the ratio of the forecast error (difference between perturbed and unperturbed) power spectrum to the reference (unperturbed) power spectrum at a given scale or within a range of scales. Spectral analysis reveals substantial differences in the reference power spectral slopes among variables, while their error growth behaviors consistently exhibit upscale features. The intrinsic predictability limit of the banded convection, measured by the difference total energy (DTE), is approximately 7 hours. Predictability varies with both scale and altitude: smaller scales (i.e., ~10 km) have shorter limits than larger scales (i.e., ~40 km), and the middle-level moist neutral stability layer is less predictable than the low-level ducting stable layer. In particular, for the moist neutral stability layer, different variables become more correlated under the coupling between gravity waves and moist convection, yielding more coherent predictability characteristics. In the dry experiment, predictability exceeds 12 hours with minimal error growth, regardless of the variable, scale, or altitude. Finally, the decomposition of the horizontal kinetic energy spectrum into divergent and rotational components (proxies for unbalanced and balanced components, respectively), demonstrates contrasting power spectra, intrinsic predictability limits, and their sensitivity to initial moist content, with the divergent component exhibiting longer predictability in the ducting stable layer at wavelengths <40 km. These findings highlight how vertical flow structure, moisture content, and distinct dynamical components jointly constrain the intrinsic predictability of mesoscale convective systems.
Reference:
Manshi Weng, J. Wei, Y. Du, Y. Q. Sun, and X. Zhang, 2025: Revisiting Intrinsic Predictability of Wave-Convection Coupled Bands Over Southern China: Variable and Scale-Dependent Error Growth, Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (Major Revision).
How to cite: Weng, M., Wei, J., Du, Y., Sun, Y. Q., and Zhang, X.: Revisiting Intrinsic Predictability of Wave-Convection Coupled Bands Over Southern China: Variable and Scale-Dependent Error Growth Characteristics, EGU General Assembly 2026, Vienna, Austria, 3–8 May 2026, EGU26-1843, https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-egu26-1843, 2026.